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October 15, 2009

Hanging on by a Thread: Month 6 of My Job Search Approaches

I’ve just had one of the most unusual first interviews in my 20 years as a working (and, lately, job seeking) professional. Armed with excellent information and company market research about the firm’s products, I went in prepared with a PowerPoint marketing strategy. I also brought along photos of the company’s products captured in a variety of store format settings. None of these materials were asked for, but since I do not have this particular industry experience, I had to show my marketing skills proactively.

 

The first interviewer was with the actual hiring manager. She was interested in my capabilities in developing new products and delivering revenue. This was a great topic for me as I have developed many new products, in various firms, generating well over $300 million. She was also impressed with the work I had done in my PowerPoint presentation.

 

After a 12-minute wait, the next individual to interview me was the group’s senior manager. This is where the interview got strange. Her first reaction to my resume was “Eewww, you worked for ABC company,” which she said in a very denigrating tone of voice. I was rather taken aback given that ABC company is a good corporate citizen and has generated more than $50 billion in the local economy. I did not want to start this interview on a negative note, so I chose not to respond to this remark. After many more questions, interviewer number 2 then concluded the meeting with, “So when can you start?” What a turn of events!

 

The last person I met with held the position I was interviewing for -- he was moving on to another job in the firm. We had a long and lively conversation, which concluded with his asking me, “So when can you start?”

 

The very next day, I received a call from the recruiter who told me the firm decided not to proceed with my candidacy because I didn’t have the necessary marketing skills. What a rollercoaster ride that was, to say the least.

 

That night, after receiving the news, I diverged from my usual organic menu and ate a big pile of mac & cheese (Why is comfort food bad for you?) and did some soul-searching. Obviously, I need to up my game to get beyond the first interview stage. To put my new plan into action, I went to the library and loaned out several key career books. I also set up appointments with 2 professional job interviewing experts. But emotionally, I am not great, I am "just OK.” It takes a lot of bad things happening to me for me to end up “just OK.”

 

A friend in one of my job search support groups tells me of another member who’s on the verge of a nervous breakdown. He has had many second-round interviews in the past year, but none are progressing to the offer stage. Another buddy of mine is upset about the undercurrent of disrespect pervading the job seeking experience. I am very worried for them. Fortunately, this job club is very supportive of venting, and all involved are very understanding.

 

There are many of us hanging on by various diameters of threads, ropes, etc., in this job search climate. How do you feel about your situation?

 

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Posted by Jane Allerton on October 15, 2009 at 10:00 AM in Interview , Job Search , Networking | Permalink | Comments (10) | TrackBack (0)

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Stay positive with your job search...despite setbacks and "unusual" meetings. If someone makes a comment about something on your resume or about your experience, find out what they are referring to. Remember, people can react based on what they have seen or heard which may not always be true.
Once you know more, you can address it with them and you can turn it around to explain what benefits you gained by working at ABC Company that you bring to the table and that would benefit the company you are interviewing for.

Posted by: John | Oct 15, 2009 11:27:42 AM

I know hoy you feel. I had sort of a similar experience a month ago and I was so dissapointed when I received the rejection email less than 48 hours later. Don't try to look for a reason, just do some review of what you said did for the next interview and talk to those advisors.

Don't give up, maybe take some extra time off your job searching but don't give up. I've been looking for a job now for a month and a half and I know there's a light out of the tunnel. Two friends of mine (one job hunting for 3 months and the other for 4 and a half) have got jobs so I might be the next one, who knows :)

Posted by: Reena | Oct 15, 2009 12:28:19 PM

There's no accounting for taste. You did all of the right things to prepare for the interview, and you're clearly an intelligent person and good communicator. Not to mention that your CV indicates that you have a unique set of skills. If those people don't value what you have to offer, screw 'em. Don't let their lack of vision & taste get you down.

Posted by: SG | Oct 16, 2009 11:18:12 AM

Hello Everyone!
Thanks so kindly for the empathy and insights to this rollercoaster interview experience.

John, you are right about the approach that you suggested in finding out more about the basis of a strange remark. This approach is indeed a great way to turn the tide of the conversation, had I even remotely thought that such a remark would come my way in a formal interview. Granted I was not 125% on my feet in this instance.

Lesson learned and reinforced by a friend of mine who says "expect the unexpected": After practicing 100 times at triathlons, he crashes his bike at the Hawaii Ironman last week (his life dream). He did get up all bloody but finished the event in a respectable time. I will now adopt his Ironman motto to all my job search efforts.

Reena: Yes, I did take 4 days off after this up-down interview, not by design, but by coincidence. I feel reenergized for all the next rounds of interviews.

SG: Thanks much for the lively and food related puns -- it cheered me, and I appreciate you rooting for me in the corner.

In sum, I do feel positively that a good position is out there for me. It is a question of timing with a dash of luck and lots of elbow grease. Stay tuned, as a wise old man used to say to me! Good luck to everyone! Jane

Posted by: jane allerton | Oct 19, 2009 3:06:14 PM

I had a similar experience - after the second round of interviews, meeting with the senior management team, I got the feedback I had hoped for: "An offer will be coming soon... We're so glad to have this search done with... We've got a lot to do, and we're looking forward to getting started with you."
It felt like such a great fit... and then... nothing. At first, they assured me that nothing was wrong, they just needed some final approvals. Then it was that someone was out of town. Then it was... well, they weren't sure what they were waiting for. Meanwhile, they re-posted the position on the job sites and moved forward with another candidate. To this day I have no idea why... Nothing in my background would disqualify me, so any additional information they might have gotten would have been no problem. Just strange...

Posted by: Chris | Oct 23, 2009 4:23:58 PM

Back in May, I had what seemed to be a perfect opportunity with a local bio-medical firm. Right up my alley, considering I'd been unemployed since January 5th! After a 4 hour interview with the owner of the small firm, one of its engineers and their HR consultant, I left in great spirits, they just had to interview a couple more people, but the outlook is positive b/c the owner decides on the spot to make two positions b/c of need, instead of just the one they posted the ad for. Great! Chances are even better :)
Sooo, a week or two goes by. I finally hear back from the owner that they loved me but that they decided to go with someone else with more PM experience for the initial position. BUT, they wanted me to interview with their new Office Manager (the person who got the position I interviewed for!!) about the second position now available! Great! Interview done that day over the phone. Got the job!! I celebrate. The one condition was (and I should have known at this point that something was fishy) that escrow had just fallen through on a building they were buying so I couldn't start until escrow closed on another building they were looking at, b/c they didn't physically have room for me but would w/in a month. I keep in touch with the Office Manager (the one who got the position I interviewed for! I reiterate this for a purpose)over the month for updates to no response. It's mid-July now, over 2 months since my initial i/view and I'm frustrated. I shouldn't have quit looking for a job, but I thought I had one in the bag!! Finally, I contact the owner directly. "Oh, I'm sorry, the second position disappeared when escrow fell through on the first building." So I said "I should have been told that, except I was told the opposite." No response.
That day I called my recruiter that I had worked for before to update my file, I'm available, etc. They said, come on in, we may have something for you now! What??? After 7 months of job hunting at this point, what luck I had!! Went in to the recruiter's office, signed paperwork, had two phone interviews with their client over the next week, landed the job and started about a week after. Awesome position, hardly a commute. Perfect.
About a month and a half later (mid-September now) I get a phone call. From the bio-med place, offering me that first O/Manager position I i/viewed for. The one the originally hired didn't work out apparently. Hmmm, you don't say. Thanks, but I have a job now. I LOVED saying that.
Moral of this loooonnng story. There's hope. Don't lose it. My story is proof that it all comes back to you in the end. Good or bad :)
Jeannine

Posted by: Jeannine | Oct 23, 2009 7:35:31 PM

Buck up. It's not just when the economy is bad. When I was trying to land my first job in PR (during the dot-com boom years), when I was 28 and finally left the family business, the interviewer (WHO WAS THE HR MANAGER!!!) said to me, "Aren't you a little old to be an Account Coordinator?"

Needless to say, I also knew the Managing Director of the agency I was interviewing at. When I saw him at the next professional association function, I told him about what his HR Manager said and that if he wanted to avoid a litigious potential interviewee from suing them for age discrimination, I suggested he have a talk with his HR Manager. I made it clear I wasn't the suing type- but a comment like that could result in a court case by someone who would take offense at it. (Though it did offend the heck out of me!).

Posted by: Elizabeth Stump | Oct 24, 2009 10:35:54 AM

The undercurrent of disrespect in the job seeking experience reflects that same undercurrent in the working experience. A general insecurity and dog eat dog atmosphere, each fighting to hold on to a crumb of illusory security. The internet and globalization brought outsourcing and dehumanization. If you're looking for a shread of humanity in the job seeking experience, you're looking in the wrong place. To gain a place on this fragile boat you have to be ready to jettison others off it - that seems to be the true essence of interview questions, since qualifications and achievements are seldom touched upon. Reveal a soul and you are immediately deleted from their presence and memory. Those career books you got from the library should help you fine tune the disguise, the doublespeak. It's important to know what sort of swine you have to become to be able to eat in the future.

Posted by: Renata | Oct 24, 2009 4:49:04 PM

There are many employers who would not have ever called you back to explain you didn't get the job. I don't think it is personal but I think there is some backroom politics going on. So it's about them and not you; that said continue your approach because a worthwhile employer would be impressed and welcome your experience. I think you would have been miserable working there if they are this gutless and unprofessional. I know you want a job; but don't settle with these two bit companies. I would write them a thank you for the interview and let them know how disappointed you were and the way they handled the process is something they may want to look at for future applicants.

Posted by: sandra | Oct 24, 2009 7:46:00 PM

Sometimes its not about "upping your game". If you just don't have the one item in your resume that the one person making the ultimate decision is looking for (whether it is actually critical to the job or not) you won't get the job no matter how well the interview went. Sometimes the final hiring decision is made fairly arbitrarily too. Just remember that there are lots of factors beyond your control no matter how on top of your game you are.

Posted by: Per | Oct 25, 2009 2:42:13 PM

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