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June 27, 2007
Breast-Feeding in Public?
"Since the general testing room is shared by multiple examinees, the use of a breast pump inside the testing room during the examination would be disruptive to other examinees and is not permitted. Furthermore, the testing rooms do not provide privacy since they are visually monitored.”
So said Catherine Farmer, the manager of disability services for the National Board of Medical Examiners, to the Boston Globe. Farmer was defending the board’s response to a now widely publicized request by Massachusetts-based Sophie Currier to breast-pump during the nine-hour-long clinical knowledge exam that’s required for a medical degree. The exam allows a total of just 45 minutes in breaks, and the exam’s board has refused to give extra time to Currier -- mother to a seven-week-old -- despite the fact that she needs to pump every two to three hours to reduce the chance of blocked ducts, the discomfort of hard breasts or even the possible risk of infection. The reason for the decision, says Farmer, is breast-feeding is not considered a disability.
Correct me if I’m wrong, nursing mothers out there, but sometimes, it sure feels as if you have a disability based on the difficulties you face. Feed your infant in a public place, and not only do people stare, but some go so far as to suggest that public places shouldn’t accommodate you. That’s what one talk radio announcer was advocating the other morning as I drove into work. Do me a favor, moms, he said. Do that sort of thing at home.
Do me a favor, radio talk announcer, and get off the air. At least, that’s what I told the radio.
It is true that progress is being made. Fourteen states, New Mexico the newest among them, now require both public and private employers to create a clean place for breast-pumping near a mother’s work station. And as the Globe article and other articles point out, some 47 states have laws that protect the rights of nursing mothers in varying capacities. Many of those laws protect the right of mothers to breast-feed in public. Massachusetts, however, has no such law.
Personally, I’m grateful for people like Currier who go further than yelling at a radio in the isolation of their car. Admittedly, this woman is not shy about putting herself in the limelight. She was reportedly featured in a Globe column last year about adults with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and, due to her ADHD and dyslexia, she requested and has been granted twice the usual time to complete the test.
I think Currier should go further still. During those early weeks, if I skipped two feedings, I carried the equivalent of two milk hydrants on my chest. My suggestion to Ms. Currier is to use the extended time to avoid pumping altogether. The result could lead to a very persuasive chorus of complaints advocating for change.
For related information, check out these Monster resources:
- “How Employers Can Accommodate New Mothers at Work”
- From the Monster Blog: “Breast-Feeding at Work”
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Posted by: Jennifer James | Jun 28, 2007 3:58:58 PM
Progress is being made??!! It doesn't sound like it's being made fast enough and in the medical field testing area!!!
Eleven years ago after I had my 1st child, I was working at a Flying J truck plaza and they would let me pump up in the cashier's room - and they didn't even bat an eye about it when I told them I needed to pump when I came back to work.
What is it - you are allowed to show more on the beach than you are to feed your baby?? How rediculous!!
Posted by: Karen | Jul 9, 2007 10:39:11 AM
I was at Sears in Savannah Georgia with my four weeks old baby. My husband was looking into buying a grill and since I had a C-section, I my back was beginning to hurt and I saw a chair around the patio furniture and I sat down. While I was seating my baby began to fuss. I held him under my arm and slipped my breast to the side and still you couldn't see anything because the top I was wearing I could just pull my breast to the side and feed my baby. I also was wearing a jacket so all you saw was the baby under my arm. When a female employee walked up to me and told me that I couldn't continued feeding my baby there and if I want to breast feed I had to go to the bathroom. First, I was shocked that a feeling would say somethimg like that to another female, a black female would say something like that to another black female. Having a background in HR, I asked her if she had anything posted on the wall, or anything in writing that says breastfeeding was not allowed. My husband and I were so upset that we walked out of the store without buing the grill. I then trying to call the store to talk the HR Department nothing. I've emailed the corporate office and no respond. I made a vow to never step foot in any Sears Department store for as long as I live. I had a Sears credit card and I cut it up. That's my story. The only reason I didn't have a bottle with me was because, my husband went in to pay for the Sears credit card and while he was in there, he wanted to go look at the grills. I was seating down only because I had a c-section four weeks prior and the little bit of walk hurt my back.
Posted by: Kerwyn Pierre | Jul 10, 2007 3:30:47 PM
I also chose to breastfeed when I my daughter and unfortunately it was not easy to do in public. It was hard to find a place to nurse without people staring or asking you to move to "a more suitable location". I applaud any and all women that stand up or should I say sit down for what is right. Keep it up!!!
Posted by: SThomas | Jul 11, 2007 12:08:44 AM
Yay, moms. Great, more babies in an overpopulated world. But, if you can take care of them, ok, having them is your choice.
MY choice is NOT to be forced to look at your nasty boobs oozing milk, nor to have to listen to that disgusting sound of a milk cow hard at work, while I'm at the store, on a bus, in a museum or an airport or anywhere else.
Sorry, but not all women find the "joys of motherhood" the end all and beat all of womanhood, and I do NOT want to have to see it a breast pump in action, THANK YOU. Keep yourselves covered while you feed, ok, no problems there. Baby's gotta eat, and I know breast milk helps build their natural immunities, or whatever. Just be discreet, and no issues. Just don't expect those of us who don't have or want babies to be all "yay for you" when you feel the urge to whip it out in public, and the whole breast pump thing just adds a whole other level of "Eeeew".
Posted by: Grossed Out Non-Mommy | Jul 11, 2007 9:28:50 AM
Absolutely, you have kids it's your choice.
But the rest of the world should not have to deal with it.
It's your responsiblity not ours.
Posted by: Kathy | Jul 11, 2007 9:48:39 AM
I think it is ubsurd that other women would have issue with a natural and by far a much healthier lifestyle. Lets see what has to happen to a woman who has a baby and she is "convinced" that she should feed her child artificial suppliments (that is what formula happens to be, the name alone says it all). First off something has to be done about that "nasty, oozing stuff" (stated by a grossed out non-mommy). Hmmm, how do doctors make it stop, it doesn't happen naturally, I'll tell you that much. Research it yourself and find out the facts before you start blurting out your silly anti-woman comments. Breast feeding is an amazing and glorius thing, none of us would be here if we didn't do it for thousands of years, prior to modern medicine and our stupid cultural issues stopping women from doing what comes naturally. It is silly to think that there are women whom are ashamed of there own femininity. Yes, breast feeding is feminine, that's what breasts are for, nothing more.
By the way I will be joining Kerwyn in her boycott of Sears and any other business that supports the inhumane treatment of other humans who are just doing what comes naturally.
Posted by: Chris | Jul 11, 2007 12:19:24 PM
i was really surprised by what is going on in this country. Jennifer is right when she said in her comment "What is it - you are allowed to show more on the beach than you are to feed your baby?? How rediculous!!". I came from a conservative country and in there women who are show ing off their breast to the public are considered a slut but breastfeeding in public is very acceptable and considered a noble thing to do.It's a totally 180 degrees different in a liberal country.They are promoting slutty things but denying a noble thing that is part of the essence of being a woman.Maybe people should know the history of this country and how this country is founded based on christianity.
Posted by: sapphire | Jul 11, 2007 2:41:26 PM
I am a Registered Nurse working in a large University Hospital Emergency Room. I recently had a young mother as a patient who had traveled cross country by air with her one month old infant. She developed a severe mastitis in one of her breasts due to milk engorgement, that required a hospital admission, IV antibiotics and a surgical procedure to correct because she was unable to breastfeed on the plane. The bathrooms on the plane were so small that a normal size person would have had difficulty even turning around, the door even had to remain open to use the changing table. She and her husband had thought that tying up the restroom for 20 - 30 minutes for breastfeeding would be an inconvenience to the other passengers. As a result of their sensitivity to others not wanting to view breastfeeding in public, this young mother endured an ER visit, hospital admission, surgical procedure, resulting permanent breast scar and possible cessation of breastfeeding - all because the airline did not provide a private place to feed her infant.
Posted by: Peg | Jul 11, 2007 2:51:13 PM
While I am all for breastfeeding babies (I nursed three myself), I also feel that mothers should really try to be a little bit more sensitive and find a quiet area away from people that might be made to feel uncomfortable. I mean what's the big deal? I usually found a secluded place. It works both ways people...I am modest and conservative by nature and would never have felt comfortable (for myself or strangers) "whipping out a breast" in public -- neither to breastfeed nor to show off at the beach. It is best to keep these things to yourself.
Posted by: Noreen | Jul 11, 2007 4:50:08 PM
The infant's timely feed is a compelling requirement, it is common all over the World. Why put the female population to one more handicap, tension and difficult situation?
Why can't some dress designer design a gown, suitable for use in public along with a strap for holding the baby, if need be, so that even an examinee or worker does her job, along if she opts for? All what an outsider sees is a specially designed half gown, light in weight, porus for air requirement for the baby, and with pleasent print, covering the lady right from neck till waist. She puts it on when she has to either pump or feed!!! After all it is a dire requirement. It is for the civilised human to live, and let live, ... after all! It is a Humane problem to be solved.
It is a serious matter and requires due consideration from man-kind and women-kind to find, formulate, introduce and get familier with the intelligent solution, and accept it all over the World, how ever less important, it may seem.
I have seen scenes some Asian countries in magazines, that some poor women who are to work on the street, sitting and selling things, carry on both feed and sell, with ease, with just a towel or cloth to hide her child suckling. The solution is to just design a viel, and accept it Internationally to make live humans more freely and happily.
Posted by: Forerunner | Jul 11, 2007 8:41:20 PM
The infant's timely feed is a compelling requirement, it is common all over the World.
Why put the female population to one more handicap, tension and difficult situation?
Why can't some dress designer design a gown, suitable for use in public along with a strap for holding the baby, if need be, so that even an examinee or worker does her job,along if she opts for? All what an outsider sees is a specially designed half gown, lightin weight, porus for air requirement for the baby, and with pleasent print, covering the lady right from neck till waist. She puts it on when she has to either pump or feed!!!
After all it is a dire requirement. It is for the civilised human to live, and let live, ... after all! It is a Humane problem to be solved.
It is a serious matter and requires due consideration from man-kind and women-kind to find, formulate, introduce and get familier with the intelligent solution, and accept it all over the World, how ever less important, it may seem.
I have seen scenes some Asian countries in magazines, that some poor women who are to work on the street, sitting and selling things, carry on both feed and sell, with ease, with just a towel or cloth to hide her child suckling.The solution is to just design a viel, and accept it Internationally to make live humans more freely and happily.
Posted by: Forerunner | Jul 11, 2007 8:46:40 PM
I think that moms totally have the right to breast feed their babies, however, when in public they should either have their bottle ready before they leave the house or then if it happened that they didn't bring it, just do it in the bathroom, where you don't make anybody unconfortable including yourself!
Posted by: Janice | Jul 11, 2007 11:06:41 PM
Doesn't "Grossed-out non-mommy" realize it would be to her benefit, too, if all the gross nursing mommies had some quiet, comfortable place to go to so that her tender sensibilities wouldn't be offended? What's so gross about feeding a baby the food nature provided for it? Why does anyone, especially a woman, think that the real purpose of breasts is gross?
Breasts are for nourishing babies. That's their primary function. If they titillate (no pun intended) your lover or if they give a teenager another reason to masturbate when he looks at a porn magazine, those are secondary functions. Get it right!
Posted by: Margaret | Jul 12, 2007 12:50:10 AM
You know what's funny ladies? Men are quick to say how gross and inappropiate breast feeding is, but is quick to stare and grab them! And what's even funnier is that THEY were probably breast fed! Men will never get it because they can't do it. Breastfeeding provides nutrients to the infant that man-made formula can't provide. There should be sanitary stations in public places for women to feed their newborns, just like they have baby-changing stations.
Breast feeding mothers must maintain their supply or it can become very painful. And I'm sorry, but I am not going to tell my child, "I'm sorry sweetheart, but you'll just have to be hungry until I can find a suitable place to feed you!" My heart goes out to the mother who developed mastitis because she couldn't feed her child on the plane, I know that was emotionally/physically painful for her.
I have 2 children, whom were breastfed, and I had to either feed them in my car or not leave my house until they could switch to bottles. That is ridiculous. If you don't like it, don't look. I'm pretty sure that who ever has a problem with it either hasn't breastfed, or don't have any children. If women weren't suppose to breastfeed, we would've been made that way.
Posted by: missey | Jul 12, 2007 1:28:15 AM
I think that anyone who has a problem with a nursing mother is an idiot and apparently doesn't understand what breasts are for or how to care for a young child or how totally unselfish it is to breastfeed your child in lieu of feeding something made in a lab. I breastfed for a year and would do it again--no question. But if I did I would whip out in public, unlike the strained way I handled it when I was younger. Breastfeeding in dressing rooms, restrooms, pumping at work in restroom. UGHHHH.
Posted by: Lori | Jul 12, 2007 8:32:31 AM
I think that it is absoulutely disgusting to do this in public. Do it at your house or don't do it at all; the general public does not want to see this. I would assume one would want to do something of this nature in private, anyway.
Posted by: H80 | Jul 12, 2007 9:41:49 AM
The suggestion that we nurse babies in bathrooms is ludicrous --
1 - It's hard to balance on that little seat with a baby, especially for 10 - 20 minutes. Besides, you really need a chair with arms. Otherwise, holding that baby in position will kill your back.
2 - It stinks in there. I didn't want to feed my babies while listening to and smelling farts and poops and diarrhea. Nursing does not fall into the same category as relieving yourself.
Some good places to nurse at the mall -- I'm afraid it won't help women taking exams. Shoe departments of nice department stores (not Sears!). The chairs are usually pretty comfy. I used to sit off to one side and I was never asked to leave. When desperate, I would grab a couple of garments and take baby into the dressing room. Again, in your better department stores, there is a chair or at least bench. If not, I would sit on the floor in a corner. Never got chased out.
Posted by: Margaret | Jul 12, 2007 9:49:41 AM
It is soo disturbing that WOMEN would comment negatively on issues like breastfeeding in public. I have seen many women breasfeeding in public places but have never seen a single mom sticking it into your face. Do people really think that breastfeeding mothers are looking forward to showing off in public? It is a NESECCITY! And let's be honest here, you can barely see the whole feeding process. You just know or assume that you know what is going on by looking at mother and her infant... Seriously, get over yourselves and like somebody here said if you don't like babies don't have them, if you don't like looking at mother with her infant don't look... What is the problem?!
Posted by: naz | Jul 12, 2007 11:03:25 AM
This essay says it all.
http://www.violentacres.com/archives/217/i-like-women-who-breastfeed-but-i-hate-lactivists
The best bits: "Make no mistakes; this isn’t about motherhood being beautiful. This is about controlling the thought process of their peers. This is about saying, ‘I want you to be tolerant of me and everything I do, but I refuse to be tolerant of you and your personal comfort zones.’"
"And please, no one give me any bullshit about how it’s not fair to make your child EAT! IN! A! BATHROOM! Your child’s brain is mush. By the time he even realizes he’s in a bathroom, he’ll be ready to eat solid foods. So spare me the sob story where you infer that even a minor amount of discretion will scar your precious one for life. It won’t."
That basically says it all right there. Put on your Big Girl panties and deal with it, ladies. The rest of us have rights too.
Posted by: Pepper | Jul 12, 2007 11:14:10 AM
Margaret,
I find it disturbing that YOU think just because I have breasts that I should share your opinion. Perhaps, as a mother, you let your bodily functions dictate your opinions on these issues. But I'm not a mother and I still use my brain.
By the way, not knowing how to correctly spell "necessity" isn't helping your case.
Posted by: Pepper | Jul 12, 2007 11:25:37 AM
Naz,
That last comment I made was meant for you, not Margaret.
Margaret, see my first comment for my opinion on nursing in (gasp!) bathrooms.
Posted by: Pepper | Jul 12, 2007 11:40:57 AM
I think we all have to remember what country we live in. Can anyone smoke cigarettes anywhere they want to? No, you have to conscience of others and their feelings and their health and only smoke where non-smokers will not be offended or damaged by second hand smoke. Let's face it, this is the land of we are taking away all your rights so you can not offend anyone. That is the country we live in. While motherhood is the most beautiful thing in the world, and breast feeding is totally natual, and every mother wants the right to whip out all their goods in public, that is not the country we live in. I don't understand why there can't be decency and respect and just throw a blanket over your shoulder. Cover up. Do whatever, while mothers have the right to breast feed in public, others have the right to not have to witness it.
Posted by: Laurie | Jul 12, 2007 12:38:23 PM
I nursed both of my kids. The first one, my husband and his parents successfully kept me hid in other rooms; our car - after he took the keys and left me and our daughter in the car with the windows rolled up and no A/C; public bathrooms (where I got to see how many women didn't bother to wash their hands after using the toilet... grose!) and got to smell their fumes... all so that other people could feel more comfortable.
With my second child, I bought nursing clothing and sewed a sling. I didn't have to stop or sit down to nurse my child and no one ever had a clue as to what I was doing since they couldn't see me or my child because of the sling and the special clothing, which I lent to a friend when she needed them.
It is completely inconvenient to have to stop a conversation or shopping or any other aspect of your life to go and "hide" to nurse your baby. Hiding during breastfeeding my first child led to severe clinical depression. Not hiding for nursing my second child raised my self-confidence and I didn't become depressed.
I do not advocate "showing it all" when nursing. I was never that kind of woman. I have been around those and it is uncomfortable to watch. However, I find it more uncomfortable to watch anyone bottle feeding. I hope that the milk inside is actually mother's milk and not the dregs from the milk industry fortified with chemicals.
I have a friend, who worked through three pregnancies and breastfed all of these babies. She had to tie up the only ladies' restroom at work to pump for her babies. It was unfair to the other ladies at her work and they hated her since she was tying up the restroom. She felt very guilty, but did it for her babies and her own health. She also felt guilty for needing to take breaks to pump, but several of her co-workers took more breaks for smoking, so that helped her not feel so guilty. I encouraged her for continuing to pump. It isn't fun to have rock hard breasts since you can't pump or nurse when you need to. Another friend got breast cancer since her milk duct got clogged and turned into cancer.
Posted by: Momoftwo | Jul 12, 2007 12:55:23 PM
The best place in an office environment would be the coffee break room. That way, if there's any excess milk it could be used for the coffe and it wouldn't go to waste.
Posted by: Charlie | Jul 12, 2007 1:23:18 PM